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  • 1.  Animal Oversight module and metrics

    RISING STAR CONTRIBUTOR
    Posted 08-24-2022 10:13
    Edited by Guy Wiles 08-26-2022 07:09

    Good afternoon

    One of the things I am trying to find and hopefully build a report on has to do with how long a review takes for each of the submission types (AR, TR, New protocol, Amendments).  If I can break that down further to determine the time the submission is with each holder (PI, Office, Reviewers, Vet) during the review process for each submission and then on average that would be even more useful.  In addition to the review times for the submissions I would be interested in a report that pulls the total number of submissions submitted/approved over a time frame.  Has anyone found a good way to pull the info using the system?

    One of the places that this info might be collectable from would be the submission's workflow history.  Does anyone know if this information is kept for each submission or is this history lost once the review is completed and the submission approved?  If kept, where can it be found after that review's approval?

    Thanks,



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    Guy Wiles
    Director, IACUC
    Augusta University
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    ​#animal oversight     #IACUC​​


  • 2.  RE: Animal Oversight module and metrics

    Posted 08-25-2022 08:00
    We would LOVE this functionality.  I have found it very difficult to try to pull this information while a protocol review is in process, and was shocked to find that the workflow history seemingly disappears once a protocol is approved (at least as far as I can tell).  We would very much like to have the ability to pull these metrics, both for single protocols (at all stages) and aggregated across protocols (by PI, review type, review stage, etc.).  Great idea.

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    Caitlyn Conley
    Administrative Support
    Oakland University
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  • 3.  RE: Animal Oversight module and metrics

    SUPERSTAR CONTRIBUTOR
    Posted 08-25-2022 08:07
    Hi Guy,

    That is the dream, isn't it?

    I used to manually track certain dates for each submission in Excel, recording them as they were happening:  The initial submission date and then every time it changed hands between the reviewers (collectively) and the PI, concluding with the approval date.  I had someone on our IT team draw up a Macro that could then calculate the time between submission and approval, the proportion of time it was with the PI vs. the IACUC during that time span, and also the number of rounds of review.

    No one kept up with this while I was on leave for several months.  After returning, I'm now just keeping track of submission date, approval date, and rounds of review.

    Using the Protocol Revision Search and it's Review Information and Workflow History tabs, you can piece the details together after the fact--but it will be laborious if you have to do it manually!  There is no report option, unless you can get either Cayuse or your IT team to create a custom one for you.

    Cheers,
    Cheryl

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    Cheryl Cheney, CPIA
    IACUC Coordinator/Compliance Specialist
    Biogen
    Cambridge, MA
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  • 4.  RE: Animal Oversight module and metrics

    RISING STAR CONTRIBUTOR
    Posted 08-25-2022 08:25

    In the past (using a different software),  We were able to work with our vendor, internal IT, and the IACUC office to create a tool to put this information together.  The vendor created collected tables (PI name, protocol ID, state change time and dates) for each submission ever generated and ensured that the tables would be maintained and stable through any update process and granted access to these tables to our IT.  Our IT then created a tool that was able to generate executive summaries of each submission that that they then were able to parse out who the "holder" was and for how long.  Working with the IACUC office, we then generated the necessary exclusion rules for submissions and determined who the holder was during each state change.

    I am happy to generate a product idea suggestion in this aspect or discuss more via email, messaging or phone if others are interested.



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    Guy Wiles
    Director, IACUC
    Augusta University
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  • 5.  RE: Animal Oversight module and metrics

    TEAM CAYUSE
    Posted 08-25-2022 12:33
    Hello Guy,

    Have you gone under your Actions menu (...) and under the Search section, Protocol Revision Search? There you can see the full workflow history of a protocol. Workflow history should cover the life of the protocol.
    There seems to be a lot of interest in getting this feature, you should defiantly suggest this as a product idea.




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    Shelley Phillips
    Professional Services Consultant
    Cayuse
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  • 6.  RE: Animal Oversight module and metrics

    RISING STAR CONTRIBUTOR
    Posted 08-25-2022 13:37

    Hi Shelley,

    Thanks for the info.  I do think that the workflow history would need to be utilized somehow to get the information and then build summaries out of the info for averages and such but I am not sure there is a clean way to sort it.

    Doing a quick play inside our Dev site where I created a new protocol yesterday and then created an amendment to that protocol today, when I look at protocol revision search it does pull up the two versions of the protocol (the original and then original + administrative amendment but they appear at least in this search format as undifferentiated other than the version (both are listed as "new" protocols with the same approval dates and submission dates even through version two was the amended version of one.

    If I go into the two versions, I can see that two was administratively approved compared to the back and forth of version one but without a clearer way to differentiate and sort I am not sure how feasible it is to try to do this by hand.  Especially if we start talking about a large number of protocols (protocols here defined as the parent/current submission) with any number of annual reviews, amendments and three year renewals.

    This is before we get to evaluating the workflow history itself (for the review time metrics) which currently would require work by hand or the info fed into another tool.

    I will try to put together something as a product idea soon related to this and once it is out will include a link.

    Thanks



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    Guy Wiles
    Director, IACUC
    Augusta University
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  • 7.  RE: Animal Oversight module and metrics

    RISING STAR CONTRIBUTOR
    Posted 08-26-2022 14:11

    I have created a product idea post related to metric capturing and reporting.

    https://community.cayuse.com/idea/metric-reporting

    Thanks,



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    Guy Wiles
    Director, IACUC
    Augusta University
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