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  • 1.  HR Connect

    Posted 07-07-2023 01:46

    Hi all,

    Does anyone have experience of using HR Connect? Could you share you experience and specifically help to give an estimate of how much time/effort we should allow for developing scripts to update common admin data?

    Many thanks,

    Emma King

    Project Manager

    London Business School



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    Emma King
    Senior Project Manager
    London Business School
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  • 2.  RE: HR Connect

    CAYUSE CHAMPION
    Posted 07-07-2023 07:24
    Hello Emma,

    I am with The New School in New York.  We just finished implementing HR Connect.  We are a Workday school and hired a consultant to develop the scripts for us.  It took us 8 weeks total for the project.  It took the consultant 40 hours to build the scripts, approximately another 30 for testing, and another 20 in post production dealing with issues as they came up.  The hardest part was identifying where the data was located in our HR module of Workday and scheduling time with the end users that had the knowledge.  Once we got to testing and then even with a few instances in post production, we ended up changing some of the fields where we pulled data from for the scripts.

    I am happy to answer any further questions that you may have.  

    Candace

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    CANDACE GRAUS
    DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH OPERATIONS AND CONTRACTING
    THE NEW SCHOOL
    THE PROVOST'S OFFICE, RESEARCH SUPPORT

    79 FIFTH AVE., FLOOR 17, NEW YORK, NY 10003
    grausc@newschool.edu" style="color:rgb(102,102,102);text-transform:lowercase" target="_blank">grausc@newschool.edu

    newschool.edu/provost/research-support/

    THE NEW SCHOOL






  • 3.  RE: HR Connect

    Posted 07-21-2023 07:59

    Thank you Candace, that's really helpful. Can I ask which modules you are using? We are using Research Ethics monitor only at present but have plans to implement the repository in the future.

    Kind regards

    Emma



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    Emma King
    Senior Project Manager
    London Business School
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  • 4.  RE: HR Connect

    CAYUSE CHAMPION
    Posted 07-24-2023 07:20
    Hello Emma,

    We are using the full suite for Human Ethics, but will be reimplementing it later this summer or fall.  We are redesigning our forms and the workflows.

    Candace

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    CANDACE GRAUS
    DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH OPERATIONS AND CONTRACTING
    THE NEW SCHOOL
    THE PROVOST'S OFFICE, RESEARCH SUPPORT

    79 FIFTH AVE., FLOOR 17, NEW YORK, NY 10003
    grausc@newschool.edu" style="color:rgb(102,102,102);text-transform:lowercase" target="_blank">grausc@newschool.edu

    newschool.edu/provost/research-support/

    THE NEW SCHOOL






  • 5.  RE: HR Connect

    Posted 08-09-2023 16:08

    Hi Emma,

    We are live with Research Ethics Monitor, Repository, Costing Tool and Sponsored Projects. We use HR Connect, but also needed to use a supplementary file to load additional data that we needed for our Researcher Profiles and Costing Tool. Are you intending to use the researcher profiles as part of your repository implementation? If so, I would recommend identifying the data that you want to display on your profiles as soon as possible as this will determine whether you need a supplementary file or if HRConnect is sufficient. For example, we include all qualifications on our profiles. Since HRConnect only allows one qualification per person, we needed to include this in the separate file. 

    With the HRConnect implementation, we did spend extra time ensuring that we had a very comprehensive log file and that has certainly paid off. In particular, we identify staff movements so that we can manually delete roles and affiliations where required as the api does not delete data. 

    All the best,

    Louise



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    Louise Bland
    Project Manager (Project RISE)
    University of Southern Queensland
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  • 6.  RE: HR Connect

    Posted 08-15-2023 03:32

    Hi Louise,

    Thanks so much for your message and it's interesting that you had to use a supplementary file on top of HR Connect. At this stage I don't think we will need to display full research profiles even for the repository implementation.

    How long did it take to implement HR Connect? How many developers worked on it? I'm currently trying to add an estimate to my project plan so it would be helpful to understand the effort involved.

    Thanks,

    Emma



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    Emma King
    Senior Project Manager
    London Business School
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  • 7.  RE: HR Connect

    Posted 08-15-2023 16:00

    Hi Emma,

    It's difficult to provide an estimate for HR Connect because we started design work as soon as we commenced our implementation project and then built, tested and refined throughout the implementation (i.e. 18 months duration). By the end of our project, we were running it in parallel in our test environment to make sure that we had covered boundary cases. 

    In terms of actual effort, we had one developer (who happens to be our best developer and an expert in both our Student System and HR system where the data is extracted from) and one senior functional analyst (me!). The design was about 2 weeks effort, development effort was about 4 weeks and testing about 3 to 4 weeks. We did have to spend time understanding and finalising our business processes so that we knew which roles to assign to different cohorts. Developing an understanding of Admin and how that worked was an important first stage as well. We were also working with a moving target because we were the first to implement on the blended platform so we had to wait for security roles to be applied on the platform and for the sync process (between Admin and our Researcher modules) to be developed so that we could be confident that we had a solid design. 

    Thanks

    Louise



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    Louise Bland
    Project Manager (Project RISE)
    University of Southern Queensland
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  • 8.  RE: HR Connect

    CAYUSE CHAMPION
    Posted 08-11-2023 12:22

    Apologize for sneaking into this conversation but have questions about HR Connect. We have been utilizing Human Ethics for about a year now and reconsidering HR Connect. How does HR Connect work and how much data does need to be pulled from our institutions database? Also, do you need everyone from institution or can you selectively choose?



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    Amanda Hong
    IRB Coordinator
    Mount Sinai Hospital
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  • 9.  RE: HR Connect

    Posted 08-13-2023 15:33

    Hi Amanda,

    You can load as much or as little as you like. We load all staff and students because everyone needs access to our system, but you could choose to only load a smaller set depending on your needs. We use HR Connect to load basic person data (name, email, Employee ID) and activate profiles/accounts, assign internal associations, and set security roles. When staff or students leave the institution we also use HR Connect to automatically inactivate their profiles. We have setup HR Connect to run as an automatic process each night so any updates to data or statuses (i.e. inactivating profiles, updating affiliations or security roles) are pushed through overnight. There are some fields available that we don't use, so we simply load a 'null' (or equivalent) into those fields. As I mentioned in my earlier comment, we are currently using a supplementary file to load additional data that can't be accepted by HR Connect, so it would be great to see additional fields added to this functionality over time.

    Thanks,

    Louise



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    Louise Bland
    Project Manager (Project RISE)
    University of Southern Queensland
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  • 10.  RE: HR Connect

    CAYUSE CHAMPION
    Posted 08-15-2023 06:01

    Thanks Louise!

    Is HR Connect synced with your HR Departments system data or IS Department data when it runs an automatic process for updates and statuses? Appreciate your help and time.

    Best,

    Amanda H.



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    Amanda Hong
    IRB Coordinator
    Mount Sinai Hospital
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  • 11.  RE: HR Connect

    Posted 08-15-2023 15:50

    Hi Amanda,

    The Units file (i.e. departments) is the first of the four HR Connect files that we load as part of our nightly batch. The Units file brings across our department configuration from our HR system. We then load the users (data comes from both our student system and HR system), associations (i.e. which department people belong to or are affiliated with) and finally the Roles file. The roles assigns the security roles to each individual. 

    The main point is to make sure that you load the Units file first because the people are then linked to these departments. If the departments are incorrect or don't exist, then you will get errors in subsequent files.

    Thanks

    Louise



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    Louise Bland
    Project Manager (Project RISE)
    University of Southern Queensland
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  • 12.  RE: HR Connect

    TEAM CAYUSE
    Posted 08-10-2023 10:47

    Not to butt in, but I just want to say how great it is to see this kind of discussion where there are participants in England, Australia, and the US helping each other. It's very exciting to see the community grow and become more international!



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    Simon Helton
    He/him
    Community Manager
    Cayuse
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  • 13.  RE: HR Connect

    Posted 08-15-2023 03:36

    Hi Simon,  yes I think it's great and as a PM I'm finding it really helpful to learn from others experiences. Thank you Cayuse for setting this forum up!

    Emma



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    Emma King
    Senior Project Manager
    London Business School
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